Why the fishermen, dropouts, and traitors Jesus chose would get rejected by most modern pastoral search committees, and what that reveals about our system.
Good article…..my friends and I use to joke that the MDiv is the church version of the MBA. I agree degrees can be helpful. It's all about your motivation and desire in pursuing higher ed.But church culture puts way to much emphasis on this them. It's another example how cooperate business models have inflitrated the church. It's almost like the degree is an idol at times. and I've seen first hand how deceptive it becomes.
Yes! Good word, brother! I was trying to be gentle and humble, but the way we hire vs the way Jesus chose is worlds apart. Different values/behaviors will always get different results. That’s why we are not getting Jesus results in disciple-making!
Jesus taught the disciples daily and several times in Mark he said to them, "do you still not see or understand? They were seeing things physically and not spiritually and he wanted them to see the spiritual so badly but mortal man seems to always react physically before spiritually and as someone said if we see things in the church through a business lense we want a polished appearance and is there time to train from within and still have a polished look? He uses the foolish to confound the wise but the world and legalities may keep the person seeing things spiritually but with no credentials from being considered to serve.
I’m always amazed at how Jesus goes against the way we think of hiring and breaks all the rules. Jesus choosing Simon the Zelot was something that’s made me go “huh?!?”. It’s funny that we get all this information in the Bible and then close our eyes and say, “Well Jesus, we believe you as Lord and Savior, but we’ll shelve your way on hiring.”
That’s right, Jonathan! We think we have better tools and systems than Jesus modeled for us, even after He went to the unimaginable trouble to incarnate Himself to come show us!
So good! I have heard someone say that Seminary is where faith goes to die…. It is NOT true for everyone with a seminary degree!! But, I have seen intellectualism RUIN someone’s heart for others.
Good article…..my friends and I use to joke that the MDiv is the church version of the MBA. I agree degrees can be helpful. It's all about your motivation and desire in pursuing higher ed.But church culture puts way to much emphasis on this them. It's another example how cooperate business models have inflitrated the church. It's almost like the degree is an idol at times. and I've seen first hand how deceptive it becomes.
Yes! Good word, brother! I was trying to be gentle and humble, but the way we hire vs the way Jesus chose is worlds apart. Different values/behaviors will always get different results. That’s why we are not getting Jesus results in disciple-making!
Jesus taught the disciples daily and several times in Mark he said to them, "do you still not see or understand? They were seeing things physically and not spiritually and he wanted them to see the spiritual so badly but mortal man seems to always react physically before spiritually and as someone said if we see things in the church through a business lense we want a polished appearance and is there time to train from within and still have a polished look? He uses the foolish to confound the wise but the world and legalities may keep the person seeing things spiritually but with no credentials from being considered to serve.
I love this insight Charmaine! So good!! Thank you for being part of our community!
I’m always amazed at how Jesus goes against the way we think of hiring and breaks all the rules. Jesus choosing Simon the Zelot was something that’s made me go “huh?!?”. It’s funny that we get all this information in the Bible and then close our eyes and say, “Well Jesus, we believe you as Lord and Savior, but we’ll shelve your way on hiring.”
That’s right, Jonathan! We think we have better tools and systems than Jesus modeled for us, even after He went to the unimaginable trouble to incarnate Himself to come show us!
So good! I have heard someone say that Seminary is where faith goes to die…. It is NOT true for everyone with a seminary degree!! But, I have seen intellectualism RUIN someone’s heart for others.
Super sad! Discipleship > Seminary!