Some climbs just plain hurt—burning legs, empty lungs, messy doubts. You don’t hike for the pain; you hike for the 360° view. In this episode, Kevin and Glenn unpack why God so often taps the “unqualified,” how He tests our yes, and why the summit is worth every brutal switchback.
In this raw and honest episode 13 of Kingdom Effect, Kevin and Glenn dive deep into why God consistently chooses the "least likely" candidates—from Moses with his speech issues to the 12 disciples who were literally the dropouts of their day. After interviewing dozens of ministry leaders and nonprofit founders, they've noticed a pattern: God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called.
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What You'll Discover:
The shocking truth about Jesus's 12 disciples (they were the Hebrew school dropouts who flunked out and went back to family businesses)
Why were there 300 million people on Earth when Jesus walked, but He chose 12 "unqualified" guys to change history forever
The two powerful reasons God picks the "unqualified" every single time (and why it's actually strategic)
How to discern when God is truly calling you vs. when you're just having good ideas
What Glenn learned about God's timing during his darkest moments in anti-trafficking work
Kevin's insurance miracle story that happened exactly 24 hours before his pregnant wife needed medical care
Why getting spiritually attacked might actually be proof you're on the right track
The importance of building rhythms and Sabbath rest when you're in intense ministry
How to support your spouse when they're not called to the same thing you are
Key Moments:
The radical statement Jesus made that caused many followers to walk away (and why it was a test)
Glenn's vulnerable admission about feeling like God turned His back on him during ministry
The hiking analogy that perfectly captures why difficult obedience is worth it
Why God sends exactly the right people into your life at exactly the right moments
How to know your limits and when to "hit the reset button"
Biblical Foundation: Deep dive into John 6 and Jesus's "hard teaching" about eating His flesh and drinking His blood—and how it was actually a test of faith and commitment. Plus insights from Psalm 139 and Ephesians 2:10 about how God knits you together with everything you need for the works He's prepared.
Perfect for:
Anyone who's ever thought "God, why me?" when facing a big opportunity
Ministry leaders feeling overwhelmed and under-qualified
People stuck in the middle of difficult obedience wondering if they heard God right
Anyone wondering if God could really use someone with their background/limitations
Spouses trying to support a partner called to challenging ministry work
Listen if you're:
Feeling called to something that scares you but can't shake the feeling
In the middle of saying "yes" to God and everything is falling apart
Wondering if your past experiences (even the painful ones) have a purpose
Needing encouragement that God provides exactly what you need when you need it
Ready to stop waiting for perfect qualifications and start walking in faith
Key Quote: "You don't climb the mountain for the sake of the climb—the climb sucks. You climb it for the view at the top. All that pain you're experiencing right now? When you get to the summit and see that 360-degree view, it makes every step worth it."
Encouragement for Listeners: Whether you're just starting to sense God's call or you're deep in the trenches wondering if you made a mistake, Kevin and Glenn want to hear from you. Reach out to us at kevin@ourbeststory.com —they're committed to praying for and encouraging anyone who's saying "yes" to God's impossible assignments.
Remember: God hires for culture first and trains skills later. Your willingness to say "yes" matters more than your résumé.
