⚡ "I Was Counseling Demons and Didn't Know It" - A Pastor's Shocking Discovery That Changed Everything

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Show Notes

Most Christians are stuck. They love Jesus, they worship, pray, and repent—but something still feels off. The fear returns, the shame lingers, the cycles repeat. What if the missing piece isn't more Bible study or worship services? What if it's something the Western church has been too scared to talk about?

In this fascinating episode of The Kingdom Effect podcast, hosts Kevin Beasley and Glenn "Buckshot" Buckley sit down with Jared Gregory, author of the brand-new book Deliverance Demystified, for a conversation that will challenge everything you thought you knew about spiritual freedom.

🎯 What You'll Discover:

The Uncomfortable Truth About "Just Pray Harder"

• Why telling people to "just stop it" and get in the prayer room isn't working

• The flood of addiction recovery graduates who weren't truly free—and what they discovered

• How traditional discipleship methods were leaving people stuck in cycles they couldn't break

Deliverance Isn't What You Think

• The 5 stages of demonization (and why most Christians are stuck in stage 2-3)

• Why "demon-possessed" vs "demonized" changes everything for believers

• The truth about Christians and demonic influence—your spirit is sealed, but what about your soul?

The Western Church's Blind Spot

• Why deliverance is normal in developing nations but taboo in America

• How scientific reasoning has stripped spirituality from our approach to freedom

• The three dangerous approaches to deliverance (and why they're backfiring)

The Jesus Model That Changes Everything

• Why Luke 9 and Luke 10 contain a pattern most pastors completely skip over

• How adding deliverance accelerated one discipleship network by 5-6x speed

• The paradigm shift from "I'll believe it when I see it" to "I'll see it when I believe it"

💡 Game-Changing Insights:

• "Deliverance isn't dramatic—it's discipleship" - Why the Hollywood version is keeping churches stuck

• The connection between mental health struggles and spiritual oppression (it's not what you think)

• Why pastors were literally "counseling demons" and how to break the cycle

• The 5 C/S's that create spiritual legal rights: Curses, Covenants, Contracts, Ceremonies, and Secrets

🚨 Red Flag Warning Signs You or Someone You Love Might Need Deliverance:

• Irrational, uncontrollable patterns that persist despite spiritual discipline

• Physical sickness when hearing Jesus' name or entering spiritual environments

• Tormenting intrusive thoughts, especially about suicide or worthlessness

• Unexplainable physical symptoms doctors can't diagnose

• Loss of time, memory, or control

• Generational patterns and family curses

• History of occult involvement or sexual trauma

🔥 The Breakthrough Moment:

"We had men calling our addiction center saying, 'I don't need help with addiction anymore—I need deliverance.' As staff, we didn't know what to do with that. We either needed to figure out deliverance or stop taking men in."

This conversation isn't just theory—it's the real-world account of how one rehab center discovered the missing piece that traditional discipleship was leaving behind.

📚 Resources Mentioned:

• Book: Deliverance Demystified by Jared Gregory (Available on Amazon in Kindle and physical format)

• Assessment: Spiritual inventory available at thedefiningplace.com

• Ministry: The Defining Place - offering prayer sessions and deliverance training

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Ready for Freedom?

This isn't about dramatic manifestations or Hollywood exorcisms. It's about removing everything that's slowing you down from following Jesus—fear, shame, lies, wounds, and yes, even demonic influence.

Next Steps:

1. Get the book: Deliverance Demystified on Amazon

2. Take the spiritual inventory at thedefiningplace.com

3. Consider scheduling a prayer session (it's not scary, it's liberating)

"We've become comfortable with the uncomfortable and kept going back to scripture. Let God meet you right where you're at." - Jared Gregory

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Warning: This episode contains mature spiritual content and honest discussions about deliverance ministry. Listener discretion advised for those new to these concepts.

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